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Title: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on May 15, 2012, 03:01:49 pm
My name is Terry Mozley and I was a 315 and 615 Instructor at Borehamwood and Brent. I then managed the transfer of the training facility to Dundee and continued to manage the training operation in Dundee for a while before leaving NCR  to manage the Computer Technology department of the Control Data Institute in London.  I would love to make contact and chat with engineers who I might have trained in those early days. The 12 years I spent with NCR were certainly the challenging and the most enjoyable of my career in the computer industry (I am now retired)


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on May 20, 2012, 10:33:15 am
Other members of the Instructing Staff at the London school in Borehamwood and Brent some may remember from those early days in 1963 onwards were
Dr Reidle
Dave Lewis
Dudley Lowe
Terry Mozley
John O Hara
Gordon Catchpole
Dave Friend
Hubert Wudke
Gunter Seitz


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: JimT on June 02, 2012, 03:36:04 am
I only know one on your list.  I worked with Hubert Wudke in Hawthorne and/or Rancho Bernardo.  Haven't heard about him for a long time.  I taught some of the 615 classes at Hawthorne to some of the Field Engineering instructors.


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on June 02, 2012, 10:28:24 am
Good to hear from you again Jim. I posted the topic hoping to hear from and chat to some of the 315/615 Field engineers I and my colleagues trained in those early days. The london UK training operation originally started in 1962/63 at Borehamwood on the outskirts of London, Dr Reidle started the school and he was joined by  Dave Lewis, Dudley Lowe and then me. The school moved to Brent in North London about 1964 where it remained until 1971/72 before relocating to Dundee Scotland.


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on June 09, 2012, 03:27:31 pm
Other names I remember from those far off days in the 60s and early 70s are
Howard Stauffer ( I believe Head of International operations based in Dayton)
Fred Schauer (Head of Worldwide Field Engineer training based in Dayton)
Dennis (Surname I believe was Palmer) Manager of the International Field Engineer Training facility in Dayton known as CTEC.
Nick Von Fahnstock (not sure of his title but he was based in Geisen Germany and represnted Fred Schauer in Europe
Dave Friend (instructor at Brent)
Jofhn Moffatt (instructor at Brent)
Tom Baldwin (instructor at Brent who I believe became manager of the ITEC when it eventually moved from Dundee.
Incidentally the Field Training operation in Borehamwood and Brent was known as ITEC. When the ITEC moved to Dundee it lost it's individual identity and became part of a total training operation consisting of 1/ the ITEC, 2/ the domestic UK engineer training operation and 3/ the training operation for programmers




Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: wally on June 10, 2012, 07:56:54 am
Howard G. Stauffer was Assistant Vice President of International Technical Services Division.
Fred Scheuer was Director Technical Education Department.
The operations of CTEC Dayton were under the management of Dennis J. Palmer (native of South Africa).

http://www.ncr.org.uk/ctec%20dayton.html (http://www.ncr.org.uk/ctec%20dayton.html)


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on June 10, 2012, 10:55:16 am
Thanks for the information Wally


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on June 10, 2012, 11:09:18 am
If my memory serves me correctly  the Central Technical Education Centre (CTEC) was the Computer Training Facility in Dayton for training International Field Engineers. Before the CTEC was set up NCR set up a Computer training operation also for International engineers known as ITEC (International Computer Education Centre) in Borehamwood UK. The ITEC was set up in 1962/1963
under the management of Dr Reidle (a German national). Dr Reidle employed Dave Lewis, Dudley Lowe and me Terry Mozley as instructors in 1963. I first went to Dayton in 1963 to attend a 315 course at the domestic training operation in Dayton, returning to the UK to teach the 315 to international engineers at the ITEC in the UK .....happy days


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on June 10, 2012, 03:18:55 pm
The logo on the letter head used by the ITEC in the UK and also later by the CTEC in Dayton
was a photocopy of Rodin's famous statue called the THINKER. Don't know who decided to use the THINKER as a logo (it was probably Fred Scheuer) but it was very appropriate.


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on June 19, 2012, 11:10:19 am
I initiated this topic one month ago to contact NCR UK and International Field Engineeers who received their 315 or 615-100 training in the UK at Borehamwood or Brent. So far no one has  responded.........These people would be well into their 60s or maybe their 70s and some will no longer be with us but surely there must be someone out there that remembers those far off days
in the NCR careers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: begoweb on January 12, 2013, 05:03:51 pm
Hello Terry, I took the 315 class in 1966, Jan.-Nov. in the Brent school and I remember you very well filling the blackboard with lots of chalk. What I do not remember for shure is, who was teaching which part of the 315 system. Dudley Lowe and Gunter Seiz also were instructors for this class (Gunter for 333 Tapes).
My name is Bernd Goltermann and I worked with NCR until 2001 most of the time in Munich as regional support specialist for 315 615 Criterion V9800 and Comten systems.
Attached you can find 2 pictures of our class of 1966. I am the one between Dudley Lowe and Dave Lewis.


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on November 26, 2013, 12:07:30 pm
Hello Bernd   Good to hear from you....can you remember what topics of the 315
were taught to you by me......The photo certainly brings back many memories

Terry


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: begoweb on July 11, 2014, 11:00:02 pm
Hello Terry,
im not 100% sure, but i beleive you were teaching the introductory Computer Basics like Transistor functions, gates logic, booleen Algebra, etc. and the 315 main processor.
As this sunday 13th Juli 2014 Germany plays in the Football worlcup final, i also remember the legendary "Wembley Goal", which i did not see live, but very near to Wembley together with some other students at the home of Jil Owens (Nurse at NCR Brent factory).
Glad to hear from you again,
Bernd


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on July 14, 2014, 10:18:47 am
Hi Bernd Good to hear from you again........Yes I remember teaching your class the subjects you mention, and I also
remember the world cup of 1966. I watched the match at my home with my wife.
It is now 14th july and I must congratulate Germany on their well deserved World Cup win.  I believe this is the fourth time Germany has won the world cup....an excellent record, as for the England team I dont think I can say anything|

Back to the subject of computers, I beleive the 315 was the finest computer NCR ever made. It certainly was an engineers
machine and just think the basic memory was 10K slabs in a cabinet as large as a wardrobe. I now have 8 Gb of memory in my cell phone, how times have changed eh
with best wishes
Terry


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: heikobuss on December 23, 2014, 12:49:09 pm
Hello Terry,

my name is Heiko Buss. I was a Field Engineer for the Century 100/200 and working for NCR Germany.

In 1972 i did the training for this machines in the ITEC in London at the North Circular Road.

I remember Tom Baldwin, Dudley Lowe, Dave Lewis and you.

A young men (Tom ?????) driving a Triumph TR car teached us the 615-100 processor.

Another young collegue (I don't remember the Name) teached us the Tape Drives - it was his first time he did this.

Every Friday all the students where waiting in the Office of Mr. Fry (that's why this day was called the "Fryday"... :) ) to get their weekly expenses - very funny!

A older experienced men teached us the 615-200 processor. He came from Scotland and was not a member of the regular ITEC London staff.

One day we were waiting for you in the classroom to teach us the B1 Operating System. You came in and started immediately talking about the 626 Printer Controller (I remember the "trunk grabbing feature") and writing on the blackboard. We had to stop you and divert you to the B1 OS .....

This was the only lesson from you on this course.

I am still working in this job as a freelancer supporting small and mid-sized companys in PCs, Servers (Windows and Linux), Networking and programming applications.

But I very often think about the good exciting times with the Big Irons ...

All the best from Germany
Heiko


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: heikobuss on January 16, 2015, 05:15:37 pm
Hi Terry,

i thought about the men who teached us the 615 Tape drives (i remember the "egg crate" ....).

It is possible that his name was Paul Vincent or so??

Regards
Heiko


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: terrymoz on January 27, 2015, 05:19:37 pm
Hello Heiko
Good to hear from you and your memories of those days at the ITEC on the
North Circular Road.  I remember the incident when I walked into your classroom and
started speaking about the Printer, it was to see how far I could get before someone among the students would
correct me and let me know that it was not the subject they expected. Happily it was not too long before
I was reminded that I was teaching the wrong material.
They were very happy days

Sadly Joe Fry died some years ago, As for Tom Baldwin, Dudley Lowe and Dave Lewis they are all now retired from working, I know Dudley lowe is still with us but have no idea of the status of the others
Soon after 1072 the ITEC was relocated to Dundee in Scotland which was a disaster and very unpopular 
 


Title: Re: NCR 315 and/or NCR 615 Field Engineers trained at Borehamwood or Brent
Post by: heikobuss on January 27, 2015, 08:56:34 pm
Hi Terry,

thanks for your reply!

I wrote about the young man who teached us the 615-100 processor. His forname was Tom. He drove a red Triumph TR sportscar - after work we used to travel with this nice car through the streets of London. Can you remember his last name?

I wrote about an elder experienced man from Scotland who teached us the 615-200 processor (not a member of the ITEC staff). Did you remember his name?

Is it possible that the teacher for the century magtapes was Paul Vincent (it was his first course)?

Best regards
Heiko